Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Sun, 4 Sep 2005 01:04:06 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Here are the pics from the airport:  http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/aloha_mabes/detail?.dir=/690f&.dnm=28ce.jpg&.src=ph

Let me know if you are not able to open it ok.

Thanks,
Mabes
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Subject:     Re: Katrina Update
Date:     Sun, 4 Sep 2005 00:04:54 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Here it is........My final Update!  (sorry if you get this twice, the images were a bit large the first time)

Jen and Liza made it home safely!  They got to fly home first class and were even able to take a nap on the plane.  They were greeted at the SF Intl Airport by many loved ones.  Everyone was thrilled to have them home.

I've attached a picture of our 3 Katrina Survivors (Bernadette, Jennifer & Liza)

They will all have plenty of stories to tell and even some pictures to share.  They are going to take the next couple of days to sleep, unwind, and get themselves used to normal life again.

Thank you to everyone for all of the love and support you have poured out to the three of them this week.  It helped them get through this very trying time.
Huge hugs and thanks to Mark, Amy and their family for providing shelter, food, showers and clothing to our gals and especially for getting them off the bus.  =)  Your generosity has been overwhelming!

Save the date for Sunday, Sept. 18th to give the gals your own personal hug and maybe buy them a hurricane ;p.  More details to follow via evite.

Signing off from Command Central,
Love,
Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Katrina Update
Date:     Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:11:10 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Almost my last update:  (Final will be when they are back in California)

Liza and Jen finally arrived in Mesquite, TX only to be told that the bus would be taking them to Denton or Dallas.  Mark was already there waiting to pick them up, but the driver would not let them off the bus.  Talk about a painful process.  After about an hour of searching for the correct person to negotiate with, Mark was finally able to get them off the bus and into his vehicle.
They managed to get their group of 8 (& a rescued dog) off the bus.  One elderly gentleman who was in need of medical care was sent to the hospital.  5 others were dropped off at local airports.  Jen and Liza will be taken to Mark's home where they will wait for their flight home tonight.  Mark's wife kindly went shopping for clothes and shoes for the girls to change into after their long awaited showers.  They will get some food and hopefully a nap.  We can't wait to see them tonight!!!

Thank you to Mr. and Mrs. Mark Yaeger for showing your Texas hospitality to our girls!!!! We can't thank you enough for taking them in and caring for them after this long journey.

Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:42:34 -0700
From:   

Jen's mom Sandy and I would like to thank you all for the support you have given her and Liza during this ordeal.  Especially Debbie and Mabelle for keeping us in the loop.  Even when we thought the news couldn't get any worse and then it did, at least we knew what was going on. It was very impoortant to us to know that someone else was also as concerned as we were.  We're sure we can never repay you, other than to let you know that you are always welcome at our house, and we hope to get to meet you all one day.  Agwain, our heartfelt thanks.

Joel

PS Mabelle, I was serious about the spa, you girls deserve a good time.
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Subject:     Re: Katrina Update
Date:     Sat, 3 Sep 2005 08:36:18 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Hi Everyone!

YAY!  After spending 13 hours on a school bus, the girls are on their way to Mesquite, TX.  They should be arriving there in the next hour or so.  From there, Mark a co-worker from Credence will be picking them up.  He will get them food, a change of clothes and a shower at his home.  He will later take them to the airport where they will fly home to SFO.

If you happen to be around this weekend and would like to join us in welcoming them home, they arriving at 10:15pm this evening (Sat. 9/3) via American Airlines in Terminal 3 at the San Francisco International Airport.  If you want more info, let me know.

We are so excited and can't wait to see them.

Thank you everyone for your thoughts and support.  I know they appreciate it.
Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Sat, 3 Sep 2005 08:19:11 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Yipeee!!!  Finally some movement.  The girls are on their way to Mesquite, TX.  One of Jennifer's co-workers will be picking them up and bringing them to his home in Dallas.  He will have fresh clothes for them as well as food.  He will be taking them to the airport this evening where they will fly home to the San Francisco Airport.

Below is the flight information:

Sat, Sep 3
Flights: AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 1237
  From: DALLAS FT WORTH, TX (DFW)           Departs: 8:34pm
  To: SAN FRANCISCO, CA (SFO)               Arrives: 10:16pm
  Arrival Terminal: TERMINAL 3

I know we all want to be there when they arrive.  Jay will be taking Liza's parents to the airport.
YAY!
Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Katrina Update
Date:     Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:05:35 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

And the plight continues....

Since I last wrote, the girls were sitting on a bus......and now....they are still sitting on a bus.  They have moved from their original location to the New Orleans Airport and then moved again to outside the airport where they sit waiting.  They are not sure where they are being taken to and when that will happen.  I'm hoping they are taken to Baton Rouge or to Texas where someone can pick them up.  I hope that it happens soon.

Good News:  Bernadette safely landed at the San Jose airport and was greeted by her husband, son and other friends.  She got to nap in her own bed and finally slept solidly.
We're happy she is home and can't wait for Jen and Liza to be here too.

Mabelle
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Subject: Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:35:43 -0700
From: Joseph Martinez

"Picture of Bern re-uniting w/ son at the airport" -dowdyb



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Subject: Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: donna kwong

happy to welcome home Bern! we can't wait to have Jen
and Liza back too!

Bern flew in today and was met by a very happy husband
and son....and all of us in spirit.  we gave lots of
hugs and she's happy and touched we have all been in
contact.

it's been a horrific ordeal.
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:06:04 -0700
From: Mabelle Delgado 
Subject: Re: Katrina Update

Good News! The gals were able to get on a ferry to cross the Mississippi
River to the West Bank. They are currently sitting on a bus waiting to be
escorted out of the area. The bus convoy has National Guardsmen surrounding
them and actually have a couple on board. Their destination is currently
unknown, but we will make sure that we have someone to greet them wherever
they end up. They are now far from the Convention Center madness and we are
happy and grateful for their safety. All of their new friends are aboard the
buses as well.
 Will update again later today,
YAY!
Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:58:04 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado


I'm not sure of their destination yet.  My guess is they will not be
going to Houston because there is no more room at the Astrodome.  I'm
working with Jen's company to coordinate a pickup for Jen and Liza at
their new destination as well as flight coordination.  I will update
when I can.
Thanks,
Mabes
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:16:17 -0700 (PDT)
From:     Kelly Lo

mabes...
 
are they still heading to houston?  my cousin called me last night and
wanted to know if he should stand by to pick them up at one of the stadiums.
 
he is available to do this.
 
kelly
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:07:29 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Hi Everyone,
Great news, the girls got on a ferry and crossed the river to the West
Bank.  There are buses there that will bring them to a destination.  I
am waiting for Jen's call to tell me that she is actually on a bus and
it's moving.  I will update again when I hear from them.  So happy that
they are away from the Convention Center Madness.
 
P.S.  Will update the general public group email once I confirm they are
on the bus.
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Good morning,
 
The gals have made it through another night in the hell hole otherwise known as New Orleans.  They have plenty of water and food and had their first experience sleeping on cardboard boxes.  Surprisingly they did get some sleep last night.  They did hear and feel an explosion last night, which as we all know was from a chemical depot across the river.
 
The plan for the day is to stay put and still wait it out for the buses.  They are however surrounded by several cars that are in need of hotwiring ;p.  It seems that the only way out of the city right now is be vehicle, so if you know anyone who can talk people through hotwiring a car, let me know.
 
Will update again later on today.
Mabelle
 
p.s.  Why did the New Orleans Saints play football last night?
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:57:49 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

One last update for the evening:

The gals and their new friends are well protected in their parking structure, there is a slight breeze, so the humidity is not killing them.  One of their new friends grew up with the police chief and other law enforcement people.  They are getting updates from them when they can.  They have water, MREs and other food.  They plan on making this their home base until they can be evacuated.  Once they find out that they are able to get on a bus, they will convoy to the bus together ensuring that everyone in their group is safe.  We hope that they can get on a bus tomorrow, but that with the amount of people needing to be evacuated odds are it won't be until Saturday.

Jen sounded very hopeful with the current situation.  She and Liza are hanging in there and feel very safe in this group.  They are located near the vicinity of the police / guard staging area.  The gentlemen in their group have been searching the area for resources for them and are very protective of everyone.  They have flashlights.  Jen has good battery life on her phone, but we are still minimizing the usage.

She will call me again in the AM with an update on how the evening went and what they anticipate their plan to be for Friday.

Happily, Bernadette will be flying home Friday morning from Atlanta.  
Talk to you all tomorrow,
Mabelle
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:58:25 -0700
From: Mabelle Delgado


Thanks to everyone's response in trying to find someone in Baton Rouge. Your
thoughts and prayers are very important to the girls and they sure do
appreciate it.
 I've recently spoken to Jen. They have found shelter near the convention
center but away from the convention center madness. They are waiting for the
buses to evacuate them out of the city. They are going to let all the crazy
violent people board buses first as to avoid confrontation. They have found
comfort with a group of other tourists in their same situation.
Unfortunately all roads into New Orleans and the nearby parishes are closed
so we are not able to send anyone in to pick them up. We are waiting
patiently for the buses to evacuate people.
 Good News in MS: Bernadette has been relieved of duty and is now
caravanning with 5 cars to Alabama. From there they will head to Atlanta
where they will catch flights home.
 Hopefully my next update to you all is that the girls are safely on a bus
enroute to Houston.
Thanks,
Mabelle
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CNN Breaking News 11:36am PST

-- New Orleans hospital halts patient evacuations after coming under sniper fire, a doctor who witnessed the incident says.
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:05:13 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Update:  The girls were trying to get across a bridge at the convention
center that we thought was open, but it is not.  They are trying to
figure out what is happening and where they should go.
 
<omitted>
 
For now, they girls are staying put with a group of other people.  I
will update more when I hear more.  In the meantime, we are all
searching the internet and making calls to try to find out what the
evacuation plan is and what routes will be open for people that can
leave the area.
 
Mabelle
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 10:00:16 -0700
From: Mabelle Delgado
Subject: Need Assistance!

Does anyone have family or friends that can get to the Baton Rouge Area? The
girls and a group of others have been told they can cross a bridge near the
convention center that will take them to Baton Rouge.
 Your help is greatly appreciate. Please let me know.
Thanks,
Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:49:02 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Good Morning Everyone.  Just got word from Jen that they are being
evacuated to the New Orleans Convention Center which is about 3 blocks
from their hotel.  From there the National Guardsmen will be evacuating
everyone to the Houston Astrodome later on today.  If that changes, she
will tell me.
 
Jen and Liza are walking to the convention center from the hotel in a
group of 12.  Safety in numbers.  The amount of looting going on is
ridiculous.  She will give me an update when they get to the convention
center.
 
Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Katrina Update
Date:     Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:30:14 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Thank you so much to everyone who offered their family and friends' homes in Houston.  Unfortunately the girls are still in New Orleans.  Their bus never arrived, so they have returned to their hotel and are waiting for word on what comes next.

Since the roads are closed we can't send anyone in to pick them up.  We have to just wait until they are evacuated with the rest of the city.  At that point depending on where they are, we may use your contacts in Houston or I may be writing to you again to see who you know in whichever city they end up.

Please keep them in your thoughts and I will update you when I have more information.
Mabelle
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Subject:     Re: Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:19:35 -0700
From:     Mabelle Delgado

Bad news kids.  Unfortunately our girls were not able to get on the bus.  It never showed up.  They think it was used for emergency use.  They have gone back to the hotel.  It's probably safest for them at this point.

Kelly, thank you so much for contacting Toby for them.

They are supposed to be evacuating the whole city, so at some point they will get out of there.  Unfortunately because the roads are closed and they are evacuating we can't have anyone go in and get them.
Since Debbie will be out of the office the remainder of the week, I will be their main point of contact and will work on flights, etc.

We have several contacts now in the Houston area offering their help to the girls if and when they get there.  I'll wait to see where they end up getting evacuated to and if it's somewhere different, I'll put out the same call to see who we know there.

I still have a separate email going to people who don't need to know all these details.

Talk to you all soon,
Mabelle
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Subject:     Jen&Liza Update
Date:     Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:25:52 -0700
From:     Debbie R. Alberto

Hi All!

Jen just called and they are still waiting to get on the bus, hoping to get on
soon.  Enclosed is an updated doc. with all the latest info.  Please keep me
posted tomorrow on my cell as I will not have email access.


me,
Debbie
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Date:     Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:43:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:     Kelly Lo

ALL

I just talked to my cousin, Toby!!!  He's the deal.

   * He will pick them up at the bus station tonight
   * He will feed them
   * He will house them (he's off buying mini blinds for his spare
     bedroom now)
   * They can clean up at his place
   * He will take them to the airport tomorrow morning

Don't worry...they are in good hands or I will kill him :) !!!

One more thing...please have them call him to set up a pick up time at the bus station.  His cell phone number is below.  Just in case...here is his home home number and address:

<omitted address/phone>

In case something happens and they don't connect...he said to have the girls catch a cab from the bus station to his house.  He lives in a neighborhood call...Heights.  He said it's about 5-10 minutes from the bus station.

Toby will call me tonight when he picks up the girls.

Kelly

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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:57:20 -0700
From: Debbie R. Alberto
Subject: SW Ticketless Confirmation

Hi All!

Below is Jen and Liza's new flight information.  They are scheduled to
arrive Oakland at 3:25pm tomorrow.  Joseph, will you be able to pick
them up?  If not please let Mabel know becuz' Matt is off of work.

--
Regards,
Debbie R. Alberto

Thursday, September 01 - HOUSTON HOBBY(HOU) to ONTARIO CA(ONT)
Flight 1865 M
Depart HOUSTON HOBBY(HOU) at 11:30AM and
Arrive in ONTARIO CA(ONT) at 01:40PM

Thursday, September 01 - ONTARIO CA(ONT) to OAKLAND CA(OAK)
Flight 1321 M
Depart ONTARIO CA(ONT) at 02:20PM and
Arrive in OAKLAND CA(OAK) at 03:25PM
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:40:19 -0700
From: Mabelle Delgado
Subject: Re: Katrina Update

OK, here's the latest. The Gals bought the last bus tickets to Houston.
They'll be leaving New Orleans shortly. Which is good since the news is
reporting looting and inmates escaping from prison.
 They have a flight booked to come home on Saturday, but of course will try
sooner if possible. If anyone has friends or relatives in Houston that might
be able to house these 2 tired, hungry, stinky girl friends of ours, please
let me know. The drive to Houston is about 6 hours long, so they won't be
getting in til later tonight (probably 2 am Central time).
 Bern will hopefully be released from duty on Friday.
 Thanks for all your emails. I'm sure the gals will appreciate it.
Mabes
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:29:55 -0700
From: Debbie R. Alberto
Subject: Jen & Liza

YEAH!  Jen called me from a pay phone...  They're on a bus in 1hr to go
to Houston!  They will call me when they have cell service.  I'm going
to check for flights sooner than the one I have them reserved this Sat
and will send updated flight info...  They bought the last tickets for
Houston...
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:35:26 -0700
From: m javier
Subject: Re: Jen & Liza

Everyone,

Bern may be released as early as this Friday, 9/2. If the girls can determine first-hand whether or not people can enter the city via car, Bern and her transport will come to scoop them up and they'll all head to the closest operating airport.

Marc
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:15:34 -0700
From: Mabelle Delgado
Subject: Re: Jen & Liza

Thanks Debbie. I'll call you tomorrow with updates that happen via email.
I've added Jay (Liza's roommate) to this string of emails. As a correction,
on the spreadsheet, my email should be <omitted>.
 I've gotten in contact with a friend who has a close friend in Opelousus,
LA which is west of New Orleans and has not been affected by the flooding.
She offered her assistance to our gals as needed. She informed us that all
roads to New Orleans are closed but said that we can call her if we need to.
So depending on where they get evacuated, we do have contacts for them.
 Talk to you all soon,
Mabelle
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:11:45 -0700
From: Joseph Martinez
Subject: Re: Jen & Liza

Image of their area:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?m=/c/pictures/2005/09/01/mn_pen11d_weather.jpg&f=/n/a/2005/08/31/national/a112525D98.DTL

Article tidbit taken from: http://hotels.about.com/

        Update 10:12 AM CST
        Although the French Quarter experienced very little flooding,
        the water continues to rise in the city since some levees have
        been breached. WWL-TV have reevacuated their French Quarter
        studios and continue to broadcast from Baton Rouge. Other
        stations in the Gulf Coast area also have live Internet feeds
        and are listed in this thread on the WWL-TV Weather Forums.

I don't have access to streaming video at work. Let me know how it looks
over there.
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:31:26 -0700
From: Debbie R. Alberto
Subject: Jen & Liza

Hi All!

I will not have internet service tomorrow and will be leaving for
Japan.  I've enclosed a doc w/ all the info. I have on Jen and Liza.
I've also copied Joel Smith (Jen's dad), on this email.  Please keep him
posted on their status.
Their reservation for Sat. needs to be ticketed by tomorrow, 9/01/05 at
11:59pm.  I'm hoping that I will hear from them today so that I can get
this ticketed.

I believe their only way out of New Orleans is from the Red Cross or
Govt.  I tried a helicopter service and they are all restricted to enter
the area.  Was told by Continental that most people are being evacuated
to Houston.  If that's the case then they can catch the Houston portion
of their trip.  The Baton Rouge portion needs to be canceled upon
ticketing if they're going to Houston.  They have 1st class seats
reserved (they deserve it, and the Continental lady offered it for the
same price as coach).

Please contact me in Japan on their status.  I will be so worried until
I know that they're back home safe...  I will be staying w/ my friend
Kana and below is her contact info.
emails: <omitted>
cell#: <omitted>

Thank you all!  I'm praying and praying for their soon and safe return.
I will be available via cell tomorrow <omitted>.
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:56:56 -0700
From: Joseph Martinez
Subject: Re: Jen & Liza

http://www8.dotd.louisiana.gov/emergency/

hwy10 is the road to baton rouge. if anyone can find road info LEAVING
new orleans ... i know all road ENTERING new orleans are closed.
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:47:55 -0700
From: Mabelle Delgado
Subject: Re: Jen & Liza

Hi Everyone,
I have not heard from them. I've been racking my brain trying to think of
someone I know that lives in that area that might be able to go pick them
up.
 I'm going to minimize the amount of info that I send out to the general
public of friends.
 If anyone talks to them - please ask what the road conditions are like -
can anyone in fact get in to pick them up if we found someone that could do
that.
 M
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:45:57 -0700
From: m javier
Subject: RE: Jen & Liza

thanks for the update, debbie. i'm going to see if bern knows anyone that can somehow scoop them up and take them to baton rouge. keep you posted.

marc
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:34:55 -0700
From: Debbie R. Alberto
Subject: Jen & Liza

Hi All!

The flight I had Jen and Liza on for this Friday is cancelled.  Per SW,
the next flight out is 9/12/05.  I just called United and the same
thing.  I heard that another levy broke last night and will dump another
9ft of water into New Orleans.

I now have them reserved for a flight from Baton Rouge to Houston to
Oakland this Sat, 9/03/05, leaving at 6:50am.  I need to find out if
they can get to Baton Rouge.  Please please let me know if you hear from
them...  These flights will cancel 9/01/05 at midnight if not ticketed.

Let's all keep in touch.  I'm going worried crazy right now.  There's no
food and people their are going crazy and I'm afraid that they're not
safe.

--
Regards,
Debbie R. Alberto
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:05:08 -0700
From: Mabelle Delgado
Subject: Katrina Update

Not sure if all of you know, but our friends Liza Bacal and Jen Smith are in
the middle of New Orleans right now and Bernadette Javier is in Biloxi,
Mississippi. They are all stuck in the South due to Hurricane Katrina. They
are all ok, but wanting to come home.
 Liza and Jen are currently at their hotel without any power. They are
minimizing all cell phone use. They have a flight scheduled home for Friday,
but currently have no transportation to the airport.
 Bernadette is on Guard duty and we're not sure when she will be released.
 We want everyone to keep the gals in their thoughts and hope that they can
all come home soon.
 When they do finally get home, we're thinking of pampering them at the spa.
Let me know if you want to join us or contribute and I'll be sure to include
you in the details.
 I'll send out an update when I hear more. If you know someone I should add
to the update, please let me know.
 Thanks,
Mabes
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[as of 08/30/2005 ~6pm, from Joey Martinez

actually got a hold of jen a couple of minutes ago. her and liza are doing
okay. basically their hotel is still an island. airport scheduled to open
tomorrow for emergency flights ... which means normal flights won't happen
til thursday. jen's working w/ her co-workers here to find a flight out of
there asap but really that all depends on the water levels dropping so
they can drive from point a to any point b ...

-joey
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[as of 08/30/2005 ~3:25pm, from http://www.fly.faa.gov]

Due to PRIOR PERMISSION REQUIRED., the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport (MSY) was closed as of Aug 30 at 03:00 PM CDT.  The date/time when the airport is expected to reopen is Aug 31 at 07:00 AM CDT.
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[as of 08/30/2005 ~1:45pm, from CNN]

-- Rising waters force evacuation of tens of thousands who sought refuge in New Orleans rescue centers, state governor says.
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[as of 08/30/2005 ~midnight, from CNN]

-- A levee holding back water sustains a two-block wide breach in New Orleans.
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[as of 08/29/2005 ~9pm, from Liza/Jenn]

All,

I spoke with Liza Bacal and Jennifer Smith on Liza's cell
phone yesterday.  They were doing okay.  They are stuck
on the 7th floor of a Hotel In New Orleans.  They said they
are getting very little information from the employees at
the Hotel.  As I was talking to them, the cell phone must
have turned off due to lack of power.  The hotel has no
power and has no running water.  I guess before things
got bad they were told to fill the bath tub with water so
hopefully it is lasting them fine.

Everything New Orleans:  http://www.nola.com

ATCSCC Flight Delay Information - South Central States:
http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/scmap.jsp

Anyway, if you have any more good/valuable information
to put here, let me know and I can add it.

Thanks!
-Brian Dowdy
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